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Subject: Re: OT: Meathead
From: Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Organization: ViperNews - www.vipernews.com
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2025 03:20:47 +0000

trollhunter <hans@franz.not> wrote in news:20251218132621.3ff21446@z-z:

> On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 19:39:01 +0000
> Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> trollhunter <hans@franz.not> wrote in
>> news:20251218110338.30ded631@z-z:
>> 
>> > On Thu, 18 Dec 2025 08:44:42 -0500
>> > Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> >   
>> >> On 2025-12-18 12:29 a.m., Ed P wrote:  
>> >> > On 12/18/2025 12:16 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:    
>> >> >> On 2025-12-17, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote:
>> >> >>    
>> >> >>> Not at all.  I recognize honesty and integrity.  I don't
>  se  
>> > e much  
>> >> >>> of it in the present administration.    
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Did you see any at all, in the last administration? If so, tell
>> >> >> me. Don't believe what you're told. Believe your lying eyes.   
>> >> > 
>> >> > The faults and errors of the last administration do not allow
>> >> > this one to be as bad or worse.    
>> >> 
>> >> Yeah. Look at the fiasco in Afghanistan for one. Trump really
>> >> ripped into Biden for pulling out and leaving all that military
>> >> equipment behind.  Oh wait.... that was the deal that Trump made.
>> >>  
>> > 
>> > Nope.
>> > 
>> > https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/bidens_weak_national_security
>> > _po licies2.pdf 
>> > 
>> > The Department of Defense (DOD) estimates that $7.12 billion of
>> > U.S. defense equipment remained in Afghanistan after the hasty and
>> > ill-planned withdrawal. Even President Biden’s National Security
>> > Advisor Jake Sullivan confirmed, “We don’t have a compl
> ete
>> > picture, obviously, of where every article of defense materials has
>> > gone, but certainly a fair amount of it has fallen into the hands
>> > of the Taliban.” 
>> > 
>> > The Taliban now has state-of-the-art U.S. military equipment to
>> > impose its authoritarian rule over Afghan citizens, sell weapons to
>> > our enemies, and perpetuate an unstable Middle East. In one
>> > desperate and impulsive policy decision, the Biden Administration
>> > reversed 20 years of progress made in Afghanistan that included an
>> > investment of $2.3 trillion U.S. taxpayer dollars and the lives of
>> > thousands of patriots. The Biden Administration abdicated its duty
>> > to the memory of our warriors and gave the Taliban— those who we
>> > came to fight against 20 years ago—an advanced western military
>> > arsenal. 
>> >> Biden was
>> >> just left holding the bag for what Trump had done.  
>> 
>>  
>> > "...in February 2020, Trump signed an agreement with the Taliban 
>> > 
>> > Trump's Taliban deal,   
>> 
>> 
>>     The Afhganistan surrender was
>> by Trump, under Trump, with timetables
>> demanded set by Trump. The entire retret-
>> and-surrender package was pure Trump. 
> 
> 
> No part of the package required leaving US military hardware for them,
> you LIE again Twitchy Mitchy!
> 
> 
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/harris-campaign-trump-taliban-afghanistan-
> withdrawal/ 
> 
> "...in February 2020, Trump signed an agreement with the Taliban 


   Bingo.

   From "never negotiate with terrorists"
to "give them all they want".




to
> pave the way for a significant drawdown of U.S. troops in Afghanistan
> by the end of that year, in exchange for guarantees from the Taliban
> that the country would not be used for terrorist activities."


    A "guarantee" from a terrorism group?

    And Trump fell for it?

    LOL!