From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
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Subject: Ai/LLM reviews of Star Trek - The Savage Curtain
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 14:53:55 -0000 (UTC)
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AI/LLM reviews of Doctor Who - The Savage Curtain
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**Star Trek â âThe Savage Curtainâ**
[Transcript](http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/77.htm)
**Rating: 68/100**
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**Review:**
âThe Savage Curtainâ is one of the more unusual
and philosophically ambitious episodes of *Star Trek:
The Original Series*, and it blends historical allegory
with high-concept science fiction. While the premise is
undeniably campy, it still manages to explore ideas
central to *Star Trek*: morality, leadership, and the
nature of good and evil â albeit in a very on-the-nose way.
The Enterprise crew encounters a planet that manifests
none other than **Abraham Lincoln** himself, floating
in space. Yes, really. This Lincoln â who is quite
respectful and warmly portrayed â invites Kirk
and Spock to beam down to a volcanic surface where
they meet **Surak**, the legendary Vulcan philosopher
and founder of Vulcan logic.
So far, so delightfully bizarre.
They are then pitted in a forced battle of âgood vs evilâ
by an alien rock-being known as the **Excalbian**,
who wants to study the moral contrasts
between the two sides. On the evil team: **Kahless**
(a Klingon warrior), **Zora**, **Colonel Green**,
and **Genghis Khan** â a rogues' gallery of fictional
and historical tyrants.
The result is a sort of gladiatorial morality play.
The good guys fight not because they love violence,
but because they want to protect ideals. Surak chooses
diplomacy and is tragically killed. Kirk, in contrast,
struggles with the need to fight in the name of virtue,
and ultimately triumphs not by being stronger
but by being more self-aware and compassionate.
The episode is a fascinating mash-up
of Star Trek values, historical fan fiction,
and a bit of absurd sci-fi theater. Itâs both
engaging and unintentionally funny in
places â the concept of Lincoln chatting
with Spock about Vulcan culture
is kind of charming, and kind of ridiculous.
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**Strengths:**
- Surak and Lincoln add some unexpected
gravity and thoughtful dialogue.
- Explores classic Trek themes: ethics,
war, diplomacy, and humanity.
- The Excalbian test, though crude,
offers interesting questions
about how we define "good."
**Weaknesses:**
- The whole setup is *deeply* goofy.
- Simplistic good vs evil dynamic.
- Poor fight choreography and
over-the-top villain performances.
- Surakâs death feels avoidable
and underwhelming for such an iconic figure.
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**Verdict:**
*âThe Savage Curtainâ* is a curious mix
of thoughtful and silly â one of those
episodes where Star Trekâs bold ambition
slightly outpaces its budget and realism.
But if you can embrace the weirdness,
thereâs something charming and even meaningful here.
**Score: 68/100**
(*Goofy, but thought-provoking in its own strange way.*)
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"The Savage Curtain" is a Star Trek episode that explores
themes of good versus evil, the nature of heroism,
and the potential for even the greatest figures
to be flawed. Here's a review:
**Strengths:**
* **Intriguing Premise:** The episode presents
a unique and compelling scenario: Kirk and Spock
are contacted by Abraham Lincoln, who leads them
to a planet where they must team up with historical
figures of good to battle an opposing team
of history's most evil individuals.
* **Exploration of Themes:** The episode delves
into the nature of good and evil, examining
the motivations and flaws of both heroes and villains.
It also raises questions about the nature of heroism
and the sacrifices that may be required to fight
for what is right.
* **Memorable Characters:** The episode features
appearances by a diverse cast of historical figures,
both good and evil, adding a unique flavor
to the Star Trek universe.
* **Strong Performances:** William Shatner
and Leonard Nimoy deliver strong performances
as Kirk and Spock, grappling with the moral
complexities of the situation.
**Possible Weaknesses:**
* **Dated Special Effects:** As with most original
series episodes, the special effects are noticeably
dated.
* **Simplistic Allegory:** Some viewers may find
the allegory to be somewhat heavy-handed
or simplistic. The battle between good
and evil is presented in a very direct
and unambiguous way.
* **Questionable Logic:** The motivations
of the aliens who orchestrate the conflict
are somewhat unclear, and the logic
of the scenario can be questioned.
* **Pacing:** The pacing might feel uneven
to some modern viewers.
**Overall Impression:**
"The Savage Curtain" is a memorable
and thought-provoking Star Trek episode
that explores complex themes related
to good and evil. While it has some flaws,
its unique premise and strong performances
make it a worthwhile watch. It's an episode
that encourages viewers to consider
the nature of heroism and the challenges
of fighting for what is right.
**Rating:**
Considering its strengths and weaknesses,
I'd rate "The Savage Curtain" an **82/100**.
It's a solid episode with some notable flaws.
**Breakdown for viewers:**
* **For Star Trek fans, viewers who appreciate
allegorical stories, and those interested
in themes of good and evil:** 85/100
* **For viewers seeking modern special
effects and a more nuanced plot:** 77/100
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