From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
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Subject: AI/LLM reviews of STNG - Haven
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 13:35:41 -0000 (UTC)
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AI/LLM reviews of STNG - Haven
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"Star Trek: The Next Generation - Haven"
is an early episode that delves into the
personal life of Deanna Troi, exploring
themes of love, destiny, duty, and the
challenges of arranged marriages within
a futuristic context.
Plot Overview: The USS Enterprise-D
arrives at the idyllic planet Haven,
renowned for its beauty and healing
properties. The purpose of their visit
is a deeply personal one for Counselor
Deanna Troi: her arranged marriage
to Wyatt Miller. The arrival of
the Miller family, followed by the
flamboyant and outspoken Lwaxana Troi,
adds a layer of familial drama to the
proceedings. Wyatt presents Deanna with
a symbolic Chameleon Rose, hinting
at the shifting nature of their impending union.
However, the wedding preparations are disrupted
by the unexpected approach of an unidentified
vessel, which bypasses Haven's stargate.
The vessel is identified as a Tarellian ship,
carrying inhabitants afflicted with a deadly
virus. This immediately raises concerns among
Haven's leaders, who fear contagion. As events
unfold, Wyatt, who is a doctor, discovers
a profound connection to a woman named Ariana
aboard the Tarellian ship, recognising her
from his dreams. This unexpected bond forces
Wyatt to confront his destiny, realising
his true purpose lies with helping
the Tarellians, rather than marrying Deanna.
During the wedding preparations, Wyatt makes
the difficult choice to transport himself
to the Tarellian ship to assist them,
ultimately departing with them. The Enterprise
departs Haven, leaving Deanna to come to terms
with the unexpected and emotional turn of events
in her life.
Strengths:
Focus on Deanna Troi: The episode provides
a rare and early opportunity to explore Deanna
Troi's background, family dynamics, and personal
challenges, moving her beyond her role as ship's
counselor.
Exploration of Arranged Marriages: It offers
a futuristic perspective on the concept
of arranged marriages, contrasting tradition
with personal choice and destiny.
Lwaxana Troi's Debut: Majel Barrett's
introduction as Lwaxana Troi is a memorable one.
Her eccentric and strong-willed personality
immediately adds a comedic and often poignant
dynamic to the series.
Themes of Duty vs. Destiny: Wyatt's struggle
between his pre-arranged marriage and his
perceived destiny to help the Tarellians
is a compelling central theme.
Weaknesses:
Pacing Issues: The episode can feel a bit slow
and meandering, particularly in its initial
setup before the main conflict with
the Tarellian ship emerges.
Simplistic Alien Threat: The Tarellian plague
and their desperate situation, while providing
the catalyst for Wyatt's choice, are somewhat
underdeveloped. The "deadly virus" feels more
like a plot device than a fully realized threat.
Convenient "Destiny": Wyatt's immediate
and dream-fueled connection to Ariana,
leading to his abrupt change of heart,
can feel overly convenient
and lacks the deeper emotional exploration it could have had.
Dated Visuals: As an early TNG episode, some of the
visual effects and set designs show their age.
Underutilized Supporting Cast: Beyond Troi and Lwaxana,
other crew members have limited impactful roles.
Overall Impression:"Haven" is a notable early
Star Trek: The Next Generation episode primarily
for its focus on Deanna Troi's personal life
and the memorable introduction of Lwaxana Troi.
While it attempts to explore themes of love,
destiny, and the clash between tradition
and personal calling, its pacing issues
and somewhat convenient plot resolutions
prevent it from reaching its full potential.
It's a foundational episode for Troi's character
development and Lwaxana's recurring role,
but it's not a standout for its overall narrative strength.
Rating: 5.5/10
ChatGPt
**Review: *Star Trek: The Next Generation â âHavenâ***
**Season 1, Episode 11**
**Transcript Source:** [chakoteya.net](http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/105.htm)
**Rating: â
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### Summary
In *âHavenâ*, the Enterprise-D visits a lush,
healing world for a peacekeeping mission.
The emotional core centers on Counselor Troiâs
betrothal to Wyatt Millerâa man sheâs never metâbased
on ancient Betazoid genetic traditions. Meanwhile,
a Tarellian refugee ship suffering from a mysterious
plague seeks asylum. The episode swings between
romantic drama and a medical-ethical dilemma.
---
### Strengths
* **Character Focus on Troi:** This is one of the
first Troi-centric stories. We see her struggle
with obligations: duty to Starfleet, familial ties,
and romantic pressure. Her internal conflict gives
the episode an emotional touch ([them0vieblog.com][1]).
* **Introduction of Lwaxana Troi:** Majel Barrett
shines as Troiâs formidable mother. Lwaxanaâs
flamboyant presenceâincluding a memorable gong
and comedic arroganceâadds levity and stands
out as a highlight ([douxreviews.com][2]).
* **Stronger Dual Plot Structure:** *Den of Geek*
credited *âHavenâ* for being the first TNG
episode to successfully intertwine
two A/B plotsâTroiâs betrothal
and the Tarellian plagueâbringing
them together in a satisfying conclusion ([denofgeek.com][3]).
---
### Weaknesses
* **Thin Plot and Dialogue:** Both editor *Jammerâs Reviews*
and *the m0vie blog* describe the story as perfunctory and bland.
There's no strong narrative arc or thematic depthâjust
a series of misplaced romantic clichés ([jammersreviews.com][4]).
* **Outdated Gender Tropes:** Wyattâs expectation that Troi will
abandon her career and follow him after marriage feels
regressiveâespecially in the 24th-century Federation context.
Critics like *Tor.com* noted how this reflects
sexist storytelling that undermines Troi's agency ([en.wikipedia.org][5]).
* **Plot Convenience & Flaws:** The Tarellian subplot hinges on Troiâs
fiancé conveniently finding the correct telepathic match among strangers,
and the Enterprise solving the plague too effortlessly. Viewers
like Redditâs Wil Wheaton have called out these flaws
as weak storytelling ([jammersreviews.com][4]).
* **Tonally Uneven:** The episode sways between melodramatic
romance and altruistic sci-fi, never fully committing.
This tonal indecision prevents either aspect from resonating.
---
### Critical Reception
* **Jammerâs Reviews:** Calls it "perfunctory" and "flat",
with only sporadic character moments standing
out ([denofgeek.com][3], [jammersreviews.com][4]).
* **The m0vie blog:** Labels it bland but not
disastrousâitâs dull, but not the worst
of early TNG ([them0vieblog.com][1]).
* **Den of Geek:** Commends its narrative structure
and notes its competence despite its flaws ([denofgeek.com][3]).
* **Tor.com (Keith DeCandido):** Rates it 3/10, citing sexist
values but praising Majel Barrettâs strong performance ([en.wikipedia.org][5]).
* **Wil Wheaton:** Surprised that the episode isn't a
complete "shotgun wedding cliché," and credits strong
guest casting and acting for a B grade ([en.wikipedia.org][5]).
* **Zack Handlen (The AâV Club):** Gives it a D grade,
criticising its clichés and shallow writing ([en.wikipedia.org][5]).
---
### Final Verdict
*âHavenâ* is a mixed bag. Itâs at its best when spotlighting
Troiâs internal dilemma and the comedic chaos brought by her mother,
Lwaxana. However, narrative shortcuts and outdated plot tropes
drag the episode down. The emotional payoff is weakened
by lazy storytelling and cultural inconsistencies.
**Score: 3/10** â Despite some redeeming character moments
and humour, *âHavenâ* ultimately fails to deliver a compelling
story. Recommended only for viewers interested in early
character development or Lwaxanaâs debut.
[1]: https://them0vieblog.com/2012/12/10/star-trek-the-next-generation-haven-review/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Star Trek: The Next Generation â Haven (Review) - the m0vie blog"
[2]: https://www.douxreviews.com/2014/09/star-trek-next-generation-haven.html?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Star Trek The Next Generation: Haven - Doux Reviews"
[3]: https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/revisiting-star-trek-tng-haven/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Revisiting Star Trek TNG: Haven | Den of Geek"
[4]: https://www.jammersreviews.com/st-tng/s1/haven.php?utm_source=chatgpt.com "\"Haven\" | Star Trek: TNG - Jammer's Reviews"
[5]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haven_%28Star_Trek%3A_The_Next_Generation%29?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Haven (Star Trek: The Next Generation)"
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