From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Y'all Keep Sharp Objects Away From Unum - Don't Worry Bi-Polar
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 14:38:59 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2024-04-17 13:38, Lil-man-ball wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 12:52:42 -0700
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-04-17 11:40, Lil-man-ball wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:23:26 -0700
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-04-17 11:03, Lil-man-ball wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:59:24 -0700 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-04-17 09:13, Lil-man-ball wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:28:59 -0400 JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> EVs suck. Lithium is a crisis. For real.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are other far more promising and less toxic batter
>>>>>>> technologies being suppressed, so...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, the classic conspiracy nutcase argument:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "There are secrets being kept from us...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but somehow I know all about them!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you devoid of all knowledge but the Goo Goo brand?
>>>>
>>>> LOL
>>>>
>>>> This is your new thing, lil-ball-man?
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://newatlas.com/tag/batteries/
>>>>>
>>>>> https://newatlas.com/energy/iron-air-grid-battery/
>>>>>
>>>>> The advantages of an iron-air battery are simple and clear. Direct
>>>>> reduced iron is the cheapest form of iron available, and was
>>>>> previously mainly used in steelmaking. It's extremely abundant,
>>>>> and totally safe. So are water and air, the other two main
>>>>> ingredients.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://newatlas.com/technology/simple-tweak-creates-safer-more-efficient-solid-state-batteries/
>>>>>
>>>>> Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) has come up with a small
>>>>> tweak that could have big consequences. By making a small change
>>>>> to how a type of solid-state battery is made, the scientists
>>>>> managed to eliminate defects in the electrolyte film, opening the
>>>>> way to safer and more efficient batteries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Solid-state batteries have a lot of promise. Unlike current
>>>>> lithium-ion batteries, solid-state ones don't contain flammable
>>>>> liquids, which are a major drawback as illustrated by stories of
>>>>> laptops and electric cars bursting into flames. Solid-state
>>>>> batteries are also less toxic, have higher energy densities,
>>>>> charge faster, and survive more recharge cycles without
>>>>> degenerating.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://newatlas.com/energy/form-energy-iron-battery-plant/
>>>>>
>>>>> Form's grid-scale batteries are built around huge flat iron-air
>>>>> cells, about a meter (3.3 ft) square, around 50 of which are
>>>>> slotted into modules the size of a washing machine and bathed in
>>>>> a liquid electrolyte. These cells effectively work using the rust
>>>>> cycle; you charge them up by applying energy to iron oxide,
>>>>> turning it back into metallic iron, then add oxygen to initiate
>>>>> the rust process and release energy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Iron is cheap and abundant, making these modules extremely
>>>>> affordable. They last a long time, they're safe and they're
>>>>> recyclable; if you tear down a battery you can take the metal out
>>>>> and use it elsewhere. These factors all combine to make them an
>>>>> exceptionally affordable form of energy storage, with a Levelized
>>>>> Cost of Storage (LCoS) more than 10 times lower than lithium
>>>>> batteries, even before you take the expected lithium resource
>>>>> squeeze into account.
>>>>>
>>>>> They won't charge or discharge as quickly as lithium, of course,
>>>>> so they'll likely work alongside lithium grid batteries in hybrid
>>>>> configurations, the iron-air batteries dealing with longer, slower
>>>>> load demands while the lithium packs handle momentary spikes. Form
>>>>> says that at scale, they'll deliver more than 3 MW of output
>>>>> capacity per acre, and they'll excel where energy needs to be
>>>>> stored for around 100 hours or more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So completely NOT suppressed.
>>>
>>> So completely NOT available to us today, yep - suppressed.
>>
>> And were lithium batteries being "suppressed" back when people were
>> talking about the technology but they weren't widely available?
>
> Yes, they certainly were!
>
> Get this through your THICK cunt-head - ALL technology the goobermint
> has is easily 100 years past what we get.
Riiiiiiiiight.