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A Texas Democrat Said In 2007 That Mail-In Ballot Fraud "Is The Greatest Source 
of Voter Fraud"

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Mail-In Ballot Fraud Is Most Common

On July 29, three of the 57 Democrats of the Texas House testified before the 
U.S. House Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, a continuation of 
their efforts to push Congress to pass federal protections for voting rights. 

For nearly four hours, state Reps. Senfronia Thompson of Houston, Nicole 
Collier of Fort Worth and Diego Bernal of San Antonio were praised by some 
members of the subcommittee for taking a stand against Republicans' voting 
legislation, and grilled by others. 

U.S. Rep. Chip Roy, a Republican from Hays County, was among those doing the 
grilling. Roy isn't a member of the Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Civil 
Liberties, but had received permission to attend the hearing and ask questions. 

"Great to see my colleagues from Texas, although I wish it were under slightly 
different circumstances. Obviously, I think that you guys should be in Austin, 
Texas, performing those duties," Roy said. 

He then proceeded to quiz the trio of state legislators on a variety of voting 
law specifics, asking them to answer in a yes or no fashion. One of those 
questions centered on the past remarks of one of their colleagues, state Rep. 
Rafael Anchía, D-Dallas. 

"In 2007, your colleague, who also happens to be here in D.C., Rafael Anchía 
said, 'VOTE BY MAIL THAT WE KNOW IS THE GREATEST SOURCE OF VOTER FRAUD IN THIS 
STATE.'

Do you agree with Rep. Anchía, yes or no?" Roy asked. 

Bernal threw up his hands. "I have nothing to base the fact that the greatest 
source of voter fraud is by mail," he said. 

Roy pointed the question at Collier. "I'm not sure what the context was," 
Collier said.

The Context: 

State Rep. Briscoe Cain, R-Deer Park, an architect of the Republican voting 
legislation, also cited the quote in a clip circulated on Twitter. 

A major provision of Republicans' legislation tightens restrictions and 
increases requirements related to mail-in voting in two ways. It would ban 
county election officials from sending unsolicited mail-in voting applications 
to eligible registered voters and it would add new ID requirements to vote-by-
mail applications. 

In the clip, Anchía is speaking in 2007 against House Bill 218, one of the 
Legislature's first attempts to pass a voter ID law to combat allegations of 
widespread voter impersonation. (That bill was defeated in the Senate that 
year, although a similar voter ID bill was resurrected and passed four years 
later.) 

The quote comes from remarks Anchía made on April 23, 2007, in which he was 
attempting to dissuade his colleagues from voting for the bill. According to 
Anchía, the bill suffered two weaknesses: it had no protections against people 
using false IDs, and it allowed vote-by-mail to continue without proof of 
identification. 

"VOTE BY MAIL, THAT WE KNOW, IS THE GREATEST SOURCE OF VOTER FRAUD IN THIS 
STATE. In fact, all of the prosecutions by the attorney general - I shouldn't 
say all, but a great majority of the prosecutions by the attorney general occur 
with respect to VOTE BY MAIL," Anchía said in 2007. 

Cain posted the clip to his Facebook and Twitter pages July 22. Roy cited it in 
the congressional hearing one week later. 

"Remember when TX State Rep. @RafaelAnchia admitted that vote-by-mail was 'the 
greatest source of election fraud' in Texas," Cain tweeted. "Now he's in DC 
pretending that election fraud is a myth." 

Is vote by mail the 'greatest source' of voter fraud in Texas? 

Anchía's office didn't respond to interview requests, so we turned to his 
Democratic colleague and ally, state Rep. Garnet Coleman, D-Houston - who 
remained in Texas for medical reasons while his fellow Democrats flew to D.C. - 
to get a sense of what Anchía was basing his claim on.

"Maybe he didn't know what he thought he knew," Coleman said. "He may be 
overstating this idea that there was a lot of mail-in ballot fraud." 

(if there's a little, then it's more likely to be a lot, too)

Election fraud data obtained from the Texas attorney general's office through a 
request under the Texas Public Information Act affirms Anchía's 2007 statement 
that mail-in ballot fraud was the greatest source of voter fraud in the state. 
But the data also shows that voter fraud cases are exceedingly rare, both in 
2007 and in the years since. 

(cheaters don't do things that are easily found out, so the fraud might be a 
LOT more prevalent than "known")

For elections between 2004 and 2007, the attorney general's office convicted 33 
people of 163 voter fraud charges out of the tens of millions of ballots cast 
in the primary and general elections during those years. About 140 of those 
charges, or 85%, involved mail-in voter fraud. 

(those are the ones who got caught. No telling how many didn't)

The proportion of mail-in ballot fraud among all voter fraud offenses through 
2020 has decreased since then. According to the data, 58% of the 534 charges 
stemming from elections since 2004 involved mail-in voter fraud. 

(when you're told how to cheat and get away with it, fewer people are going to 
get caught)

"If we can agree that this is the greatest source of fraud - as Anchía did, 
then it's reckless to expand it in ways that make it harder to detect.

(LOL... BINGO! My point, exactly)

If we do that, we only create further distrust in elections," Roy told 
PolitiFact. "If a store owner who says, 'We never sell alcohol to minors' never 
checks IDs, how much faith can we put in that statement?" 

The cases the attorney general's office has prosecuted are the result of 
ongoing crackdowns on voter fraud over the last 15 years - during the tenure of 
Gov. Greg Abbott as attorney general and current Attorney General Ken Paxton. 

In 2005, for instance, Abbott used part of a $1.4 million federal crime 
fighting grant to establish a voter fraud unit within his attorney general's 
office. One year later, the task force brought charges against 11 individuals. 
One involved a person illegally casting a ballot, the others involved people 
assisting seniors in casting mail-in ballots, according to the Lone Star 
Project. 

In 2020, Paxton beefed up the voter fraud unit by dedicating more than 22,000 
staff hours to voter fraud cases that year, doubling the time the office spent 
working on fraud cases in 2018, according to the Houston Chronicle. The result 
was 16 prosecutions, all involving Harris County residents who gave false 
addresses on their voter registration forms. 

According to Ed Martin, a political strategist and former executive director of 
the Texas Democratic Party, the mounting resources invested in finding voter 
fraud over the years versus the few cases prosecuted shows Republicans' 
underlying agenda. 

"The consistent context has been an unrelenting national vote suppression 
agenda that is based on bogus fraud claims that are not supported by facts on 
the ground in Texas," Martin said. 

And to Coleman, the attorney general's recent efforts to find voter fraud cases 
is an attempt to bolster former President Donald Trump's false claim that the 
2020 election was rigged against him. 

"This is all about keeping Trump voters believing that the election was 
stolen," said Coleman. "They wouldn't have to say that there 'are more than 100 
(fraudulent ballots). That's enough. People will believe it was stolen." 

Speaking during an Aug. 1 rally outside the Texas Capitol, state Sen. Bryan 
Hughes, R-Mineola, framed the rationale behind Republican's voting legislation, 
which he authored, this way: 

"The other side, they used to say, 'There's no evidence of voter fraud.' And so 
we showed them evidence, and then they started saying, 'Well, there's no 
evidence of widespread voter fraud.' And our question to them has been, how 
much fraud is okay?" he said. 
Our ruling 

During a congressional hearing, Roy claimed that Anchía, a Democratic Texas 
House member currently breaking quorum in Washington, said in 2007 that mail-in 
ballot fraud "is the greatest source of voter fraud in this state." Anchía is 
one of 57 Texas Democratic lawmakers breaking quorum in order to block passage 
of a GOP voting bill, which includes new restrictions and requirements for 
mail-in voting. 

Roy is correct. Anchía gave those remarks while speaking in opposition to a 
voter ID law in 2007, making the point that lawmakers should be focusing on 
fraud stemming from mail-in ballots rather than voter impersonation. 

Anchía's statement is correct too. As of 2007, about 85% of voter fraud cases 
involved mail-in-ballot fraud. About 58% of voter fraud cases since 2005 
involve mail-in ballot fraud. But the total number of prosecutions are 
minuscule compared to the tens of millions of votes cast in the last 15 years. 

We rate Roy's claim **True**.

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