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From: "Little@man.Ball" <suck@ra.mentos>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: A Texas Democrat Once Said In 2007 That Mail-In Ballot Fraud
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2024 14:16:49 -0600
Organization: \@multiple personality phil hendry mind fuck@/

On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 16:43:14 -0700
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-04-24 16:01, AlleyCat wrote:
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> > A Texas Democrat Said In 2007 That Mail-In Ballot Fraud "Is The
> > Greatest Source of Voter Fraud"
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> > Fact-check: true =20
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> Congratulations.
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> You have provided a source that claims that someone SAID something.
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> Not that what that person said was actually true.
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As you stand in utter humiliated defeat by the sheer volume and accuracy
of his citations, asstard.

> >=20
> > Mail-In Ballot Fraud Is Most Common
> >=20
> > On July 29, three of the 57 Democrats of the Texas House testified
> > before the U.S. House Subcommittee on Civil Rights and Civil
> > Liberties, a continuation of their efforts to push Congress to pass
> > federal protections for voting rights.
> >=20
> > For nearly four hours, state Reps. Senfronia Thompson of Houston,
> > Nicole Collier of Fort Worth and Diego Bernal of San Antonio were
> > praised by some members of the subcommittee for taking a stand
> > against Republicans' voting legislation, and grilled by others.
> >=20
> > U.S. Rep. Chip Roy, a Republican from Hays County, was among those
> > doing the grilling. Roy isn't a member of the Subcommittee on Civil
> > Rights and Civil Liberties, but had received permission to attend
> > the hearing and ask questions.
> >=20
> > "Great to see my colleagues from Texas, although I wish it were
> > under slightly different circumstances. Obviously, I think that you
> > guys should be in Austin, Texas, performing those duties," Roy said.
> >=20
> > He then proceeded to quiz the trio of state legislators on a
> > variety of voting law specifics, asking them to answer in a yes or
> > no fashion. One of those questions centered on the past remarks of
> > one of their colleagues, state Rep. Rafael Anch=C3=ADa, D-Dallas.
> >=20
> > "In 2007, your colleague, who also happens to be here in D.C.,
> > Rafael Anch=C3=ADa said, 'VOTE BY MAIL THAT WE KNOW IS THE GREATEST
> > SOURCE OF VOTER FRAUD IN THIS STATE.'
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> > Do you agree with Rep. Anch=C3=ADa, yes or no?" Roy asked.
> >=20
> > Bernal threw up his hands. "I have nothing to base the fact that
> > the greatest source of voter fraud is by mail," he said.
> >=20
> > Roy pointed the question at Collier. "I'm not sure what the context
> > was," Collier said.
> >=20
> > The Context:
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> > State Rep. Briscoe Cain, R-Deer Park, an architect of the
> > Republican voting legislation, also cited the quote in a clip
> > circulated on Twitter.
> >=20
> > A major provision of Republicans' legislation tightens restrictions
> > and increases requirements related to mail-in voting in two ways.
> > It would ban county election officials from sending unsolicited
> > mail-in voting applications to eligible registered voters and it
> > would add new ID requirements to vote-by- mail applications.
> >=20
> > In the clip, Anch=C3=ADa is speaking in 2007 against House Bill 218, one
> > of the Legislature's first attempts to pass a voter ID law to
> > combat allegations of widespread voter impersonation. (That bill
> > was defeated in the Senate that year, although a similar voter ID
> > bill was resurrected and passed four years later.)
> >=20
> > The quote comes from remarks Anch=C3=ADa made on April 23, 2007, in
> > which he was attempting to dissuade his colleagues from voting for
> > the bill. According to Anch=C3=ADa, the bill suffered two weaknesses: it
> > had no protections against people using false IDs, and it allowed
> > vote-by-mail to continue without proof of identification.
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> > "VOTE BY MAIL, THAT WE KNOW, IS THE GREATEST SOURCE OF VOTER FRAUD
> > IN THIS STATE. In fact, all of the prosecutions by the attorney
> > general - I shouldn't say all, but a great majority of the
> > prosecutions by the attorney general occur with respect to VOTE BY
> > MAIL," Anch=C3=ADa said in 2007.
> >=20
> > Cain posted the clip to his Facebook and Twitter pages July 22. Roy
> > cited it in the congressional hearing one week later.
> >=20
> > "Remember when TX State Rep. @RafaelAnchia admitted that
> > vote-by-mail was 'the greatest source of election fraud' in Texas,"
> > Cain tweeted. "Now he's in DC pretending that election fraud is a
> > myth."
> >=20
> > Is vote by mail the 'greatest source' of voter fraud in Texas?
> >=20
> > Anch=C3=ADa's office didn't respond to interview requests, so we turned
> > to his Democratic colleague and ally, state Rep. Garnet Coleman,
> > D-Houston - who remained in Texas for medical reasons while his
> > fellow Democrats flew to D.C. - to get a sense of what Anch=C3=ADa was
> > basing his claim on.
> >=20
> > "Maybe he didn't know what he thought he knew," Coleman said. "He
> > may be overstating this idea that there was a lot of mail-in ballot
> > fraud."
> >=20
> > (if there's a little, then it's more likely to be a lot, too)
> >=20
> > Election fraud data obtained from the Texas attorney general's
> > office through a request under the Texas Public Information Act
> > affirms Anch=C3=ADa's 2007 statement that mail-in ballot fraud was the
> > greatest source of voter fraud in the state. But the data also
> > shows that voter fraud cases are exceedingly rare, both in 2007 and
> > in the years since.
> >=20
> > (cheaters don't do things that are easily found out, so the fraud
> > might be a LOT more prevalent than "known")
> >=20
> > For elections between 2004 and 2007, the attorney general's office
> > convicted 33 people of 163 voter fraud charges out of the tens of
> > millions of ballots cast in the primary and general elections
> > during those years. About 140 of those charges, or 85%, involved
> > mail-in voter fraud.
> >=20
> > (those are the ones who got caught. No telling how many didn't)
> >=20
> > The proportion of mail-in ballot fraud among all voter fraud
> > offenses through 2020 has decreased since then. According to the
> > data, 58% of the 534 charges stemming from elections since 2004
> > involved mail-in voter fraud.
> >=20
> > (when you're told how to cheat and get away with it, fewer people
> > are going to get caught)
> >=20
> > "If we can agree that this is the greatest source of fraud - as
> > Anch=C3=ADa did, then it's reckless to expand it in ways that make it
> > harder to detect.
> >=20
> > (LOL... BINGO! My point, exactly)
> >=20
> > If we do that, we only create further distrust in elections," Roy
> > told PolitiFact. "If a store owner who says, 'We never sell alcohol
> > to minors' never checks IDs, how much faith can we put in that
> > statement?"
> >=20
> > The cases the attorney general's office has prosecuted are the
> > result of ongoing crackdowns on voter fraud over the last 15 years
> > - during the tenure of Gov. Greg Abbott as attorney general and
> > current Attorney General Ken Paxton.
> >=20
> > In 2005, for instance, Abbott used part of a $1.4 million federal
> > crime fighting grant to establish a voter fraud unit within his
> > attorney general's office. One year later, the task force brought
> > charges against 11 individuals. One involved a person illegally
> > casting a ballot, the others involved people assisting seniors in
> > casting mail-in ballots, according to the Lone Star Project.
> >=20
> > In 2020, Paxton beefed up the voter fraud unit by dedicating more
> > than 22,000 staff hours to voter fraud cases that year, doubling
> > the time the office spent working on fraud cases in 2018, according
> > to the Houston Chronicle. The result was 16 prosecutions, all
> > involving Harris County residents who gave false addresses on their
> > voter registration forms.
> >=20
> > According to Ed Martin, a political strategist and former executive
> > director of the Texas Democratic Party, the mounting resources
> > invested in finding voter fraud over the years versus the few cases
> > prosecuted shows Republicans' underlying agenda.
> >=20
> > "The consistent context has been an unrelenting national vote
> > suppression agenda that is based on bogus fraud claims that are not
> > supported by facts on the ground in Texas," Martin said.
> >=20
> > And to Coleman, the attorney general's recent efforts to find voter
> > fraud cases is an attempt to bolster former President Donald
> > Trump's false claim that the 2020 election was rigged against him.
> >=20
> > "This is all about keeping Trump voters believing that the election
> > was stolen," said Coleman. "They wouldn't have to say that there
> > 'are more than 100 (fraudulent ballots). That's enough. People will
> > believe it was stolen."
> >=20
> > Speaking during an Aug. 1 rally outside the Texas Capitol, state
> > Sen. Bryan Hughes, R-Mineola, framed the rationale behind
> > Republican's voting legislation, which he authored, this way:
> >=20
> > "The other side, they used to say, 'There's no evidence of voter
> > fraud.' And so we showed them evidence, and then they started
> > saying, 'Well, there's no evidence of widespread voter fraud.' And
> > our question to them has been, how much fraud is okay?" he said.
> > Our ruling
> >=20
> > During a congressional hearing, Roy claimed that Anch=C3=ADa, a
> > Democratic Texas House member currently breaking quorum in
> > Washington, said in 2007 that mail-in ballot fraud "is the greatest
> > source of voter fraud in this state." Anch=C3=ADa is one of 57 Texas
> > Democratic lawmakers breaking quorum in order to block passage of a
> > GOP voting bill, which includes new restrictions and requirements
> > for mail-in voting.
> >=20
> > Roy is correct. Anch=C3=ADa gave those remarks while speaking in
> > opposition to a voter ID law in 2007, making the point that
> > lawmakers should be focusing on fraud stemming from mail-in ballots
> > rather than voter impersonation.
> >=20
> > Anch=C3=ADa's statement is correct too. As of 2007, about 85% of voter
> > fraud cases involved mail-in-ballot fraud. About 58% of voter fraud
> > cases since 2005 involve mail-in ballot fraud. But the total number
> > of prosecutions are minuscule compared to the tens of millions of
> > votes cast in the last 15 years.
> >=20
> > We rate Roy's claim **True**.
> >=20
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> >=20
> > THIS is Joe Biden when not on drugs or stimulants and acts like
> > himself:
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> > https://ak2.rmbl.ws/s8/2/S/p/u/y/Spuyq.caa.mp4?b=3D1&u=3Dummtf
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> > https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xPhZcMYekKs?feature=3Dshare
> >=20
> > https://youtu.be/NDdNDLvvk1g?t=3D27
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> > https://youtu.be/NDdNDLvvk1g?t=3D36
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> > https://youtu.be/hiDRFTVH0rY?t=3D20
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> > https://youtu.be/KuhR-Nqv6Wg
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> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD5JF7PupC58andpp=3DygUSam9lIGJpZGVuIH=
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> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3gsMTe0Nr4Yandpp=3DygUSam9lIGJpZGVuIH=
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> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DWBUgHkbtm9Iandpp=3DygUSam9lIGJpZGVuIH=
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> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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> > Ladies and Gentlemen... I give you the Democrats' best:
> > Old-Rich-White- Religious Freak, Joe Biden
> >=20
> > Or As Old-Rich-White-Religious Freak, Joe Biden Would Say:
> > "Labadies and Gntlmn... I gve yu the Dmcrts' bst."
> >=20
> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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> > Truinnerashuvvaduprezure!
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> > https://i.imgur.com/vtb7SuM.mp4
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> > https://youtu.be/Slm5bvO-_5I
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> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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> > Joe Bidden Completely Forgets What He's Talking About In
> > Excruciating Press Conference
> > https://youtu.be/SdfvIvYPPRo?t=3D32
> >=20
> > Joe Biden Gets Completely LOST in Middle of a Story
> > https://rumble.com/vgbxnh-joe-biden-gets-completely-lost-in-middle-of-a-
> > story.html?mref=3D22lbp&mc=3D56yab
> >=20
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> > Biden tries to explain the Covid bill. This moron is President? Wow.
> > https://twitter.com/i/status/1368292670372683776
> >=20
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> > Biden's Dementia Flares Up, Has Complete Mental Short-Circuit
> > During Speech
> > https://rumble.com/ve8jlz-biden-briefly-malfunctions-again.html
> >=20
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> > Out-Performed Every Presidential Challenger In US History?
> > https://twitter.com/i/status/1364024001736155144
> >=20
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> > Joe Biden: You Just Wonder
> > https://youtu.be/Uj0ccJgJsPA
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> > Joe Biden Fumbles Through Speech
> > https://youtu.be/0xwoaagXFyU
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> > Joe Biden Embarrassingly Delivers his WORST Speech while 'President
> > Elect' https://youtu.be/oHI__YneMuE
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> > Barely There Biden Makes No Sense
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DYxxAyHgBiNU
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> > Joe Biden Stumbles, Makes No Sense
> > https://youtu.be/X1byHpkSmYc
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> > Joe Biden Makes No Sense, Forgets When The 1918 Flu Pandemic
> > Occurred https://youtu.be/vt7WPjsYl44
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> > Joe Biden making Zer0 sense
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVYch-1fRhiE
> >=20
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> > Joe Biden Told Voters To "Go To" A Phone Number. Now, He Still
> > Makes Zero Sense!
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dqg4OUk0qyWM
> >  =20
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