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On 2024-04-28, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 22:27:35 -0000 (UTC), pothead
><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-04-27, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Apr 2024 14:53:32 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>>><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2024-04-25, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:43:49 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>><noway@nowhere.com> wrote:https://youtu.be/-EahgmNmMsM?si=jwAKiAv8qTb_iHeK
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 4/24/2024 4:37 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 08:57:22 -0700, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>>>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 4/22/2024 5:43 PM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Arguing the Biden administration?s decision to include gender identity
>>>>>>>>> in Title IX will harm women, conservative groups have vowed to work to
>>>>>>>>> reverse the ?administrative fiat? in the courts.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Many argue Biden?s Education Department lacks the authority to rewrite
>>>>>>>>> the 52-year-old federal law to redefine sex to include sexual
>>>>>>>>> orientation and gender identity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ?This regulation is an assault on women and girls,? stated Betsy
>>>>>>>>> DeVos, education secretary under President Donald Trump, in a post on
>>>>>>>>> X.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ?It makes it a federal requirement that boys be allowed in girls
>>>>>>>>> bathrooms in elementary schools. It makes it a federal requirement
>>>>>>>>> that men be allowed to play women?s sports, putting their safety,
>>>>>>>>> privacy and competitive opportunity at risk. And it makes it a federal
>>>>>>>>> requirement that feelings, not facts, dictate how Title IX is
>>>>>>>>> enforced,? DeVos stated."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.thecollegefix.com/conservatives-prep-lawsuits-as-bidens-title-ix-rewrite-to-include-gender-identity-condemned/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Title VII of the Civil Rights Act was interpreted by SCOTUS (in an
>>>>>>>> opinion written by Gorsuch) to mean that discrimination on the basis of
>>>>>>>> sexual orientation or gender identity in the workplace discriminates on
>>>>>>>> the basis of sex. This interpretation of Title IX mirrors that logic.
>>>>>>>> For example, you can't deny admission to a school because someone is gay
>>>>>>>> or trans. Prior to this regulation, you could under federal law.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, this regulation does not imply that boys must be allowed to use
>>>>>>>> the girls' bathroom or men must be allowed to compete in women's sports.
>>>>>>>> Prior to this regulation, neither was permitted even though both treat
>>>>>>>> boys/men differently than girls/women. Privacy, safety and the integrity
>>>>>>>> of women's sports justified treating the sexes differently. It may also
>>>>>>>> be the case under the new regulation that denying trans women access to
>>>>>>>> the woman's bathroom or women's sports are also justified.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The writer of the article disagrees with you, as well as many others.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From the fact sheet that summarizes the revised rule:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"The rule prohibits discrimination and harassment based on sexual 
>>>>>>orientation, gender identity, and sex characteristics in federally 
>>>>>>funded education programs, applying the reasoning of the Supreme Court?s 
>>>>>>ruling in Bostock v. Clayton County." (Bostock is the decision I 
>>>>>>referenced above, written by Gorsuch).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"The final regulations clarify that a school must not separate or treat 
>>>>>>people differently based on sex in a manner that subjects them to more 
>>>>>>than de minimis harm, except in limited circumstances permitted by Title 
>>>>>>IX. The final regulations further recognize that preventing someone from 
>>>>>>participating in school (including in sex-separate activities) 
>>>>>>consistent with their gender identity causes that person more than de 
>>>>>>minimis harm. This general nondiscrimination principle applies except in 
>>>>>>the limited circumstances specified by statute, such as in the context 
>>>>>>of sex-separate living facilities and sex-separate athletic teams.  The 
>>>>>>final regulations do not include new rules governing eligibility 
>>>>>>criteria for athletic teams."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>https://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/t9-final-rule-factsheet.pdf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In your opinion, when the government forbid schools from denying 
>>>>>>admission to trans students is that a bad thing because it normalizes a 
>>>>>>mental illness?
>>>>>
>>>>> You're starting on a faulty premise.  What schoot has denied admission
>>>>> to trans students?  The changes are about twisting Title IX to require
>>>>> schools to allow biological men into women's spaces and vice-versa.
>>>>> The debate  is about preserving the rights of ALL.
>>>>>
>>>>> In all seriousness, why is this subject of advocating the
>>>>> normalization of mental illness the only thing you comment upon?
>>>>> Interesting that posted an article about multiple incidents of trans
>>>>> shooters attacking schools and you were silent.  I find that curious.
>>>>
>>>>Trans people shouldn't be discriminated against, however there needs to be some controls in place 
>>>>such as if you have male biological parts, you shower and use the men's facilities no matter what 
>>>>color panties you are wearing. And you compete on the men's teams.
>>>
>>> While we will have to agree to disagree that we should normalize
>>> mental illness, the mentally ill have to be told that their rights
>>> stop when they start intruding on the rights of others.
>>
>>Yes.
>>They are welcome to their opinion of what sex they believe they are but don't expect others to 
>>agree with those choices.
>>My opinion is these people suffer from a mental illness and at some point they will realize this 
>>and get the help they need.
>
> There is a growing group of people now who did mutilitate themselves
> and now realize the damage they've done.  It's too late for them to
> get the "help" they needed before they damaged themselves.

Yes.
De-transitioning is a big topic these days. 
Watch for the suicide rate for trans people to increase.


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pothead
Joe Biden is the absolute WORST President Of the U.S. ever.
Nobody else is even close. Including Jimmy Carter.
Vote for ANYBODY but Joe Biden in 2024.