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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Pete Buttiplug Has A VERY Tough Time Trying To Explain Why...
Date: Tue, 28 May 2024 13:01:05 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2024-05-28 12:58, Loran wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-05-28 12:34, Loran wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-28 12:08, Loran wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-05-27 18:16, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-05-27, Loran <loran@invalid.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-26 16:00, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-26, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-26 13:21, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-05-26, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pete Buttigieg has a VERY tough time trying to explain why 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "only 7
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or 8 [electric vehicle] charging stations
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been produced with the $7.5 BILLION investment that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> taxpayers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> made back in 2021."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm the first to acknowledge that Trump didn't appoint the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> best to
>>>>>>>>>>>> his administration, but Joe
>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden has really scraped the bottom of the barrel.
>>>>>>>>>>>> A guy who steals suitcases full of women's designer clothes at
>>>>>>>>>>>> airports.
>>>>>>>>>>>> A freak as assistant secretary of health.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Miss Milley.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And of course Pothole Pete "the butt" Buttigieg as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation
>>>>>>>>>>>> secretary.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The man is utterly incompetent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Further proof that have degrees from fancy Universities 
>>>>>>>>>>>> means nothing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, this was not "spend $7.5 billion" this year.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's a plan spread out over 9 years which will CULMINATE in 
>>>>>>>>>>> 500,000
>>>>>>>>>>> chargers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How many chargers has Biden built so far?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why is that relevant?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They promised to cover the nation within 10 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far - 8 total.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That speaks volumes!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why does this take Biden so long?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Because one of the mandates is that they be chargers built in 
>>>>>>>>> the USA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We do that, yes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.evgo.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.chargepoint.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.electrifyamerica.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A few vendors he could have worked with, lol.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tesla doesn't seem to have as many problems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which Tesla doesn't have to follow.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So government got it wrong again, thanks for providing proof of 
>>>>>>>> how the
>>>>>>>> private sector succeeds always.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2024/03/28/ev-charging-stations-slow-rollout/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's another example of too much government involvement gone bad.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Giverment always ducks things up, especially new technologies.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the tax payer money rolled out to the states is not being 
>>>>>>> tracked accurately and prone to
>>>>>>> misuse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Got any evidence that is so?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thought not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/05/congress-ev-chargers-billions-00129996
>>>>>
>>>>> 12/05/2023 05:00 AM EST
>>>>>
>>>>> Congress at the urging of the Biden administration agreed in 2021 
>>>>> to spend $7.5 billion to build tens of thousands of electric 
>>>>> vehicle chargers across the country, aiming to appease anxious 
>>>>> drivers while tackling climate change.
>>>>
>>>> They agreed in 2021. The spending wasn't going to take place in 2021.
>>>
>>> This was in his platform before the election.
>>
>> How does that change anything?
> 
> It shows you what he has not done despite having full control of his own 
> party.

So did you apply the same standard to Trump's entire do-nothing first 
two years?

> 
> 
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Two years later, the program has yet to install a single charger.
>>>>>
>>>>> States and the charger industry blame the delays mostly on the 
>>>>> labyrinth of new contracting and performance requirements they have 
>>>>> to navigate to receive federal funds. While federal officials have 
>>>>> authorized more than $2 billion of the funds to be sent to states, 
>>>>> fewer than half of states have even started to take bids from 
>>>>> contractors to build the chargers — let alone begin construction.
>>>>
>>>> So definitely much less than $7.5 billion has been as much as 
>>>> authorized.
>>>>
>>>> Got it.
>>>
>>> Check the publication date please.
>>>
>>> 12/05/2023
>>
>> Show us how much money has actually been SPENT to date.
> 
> Why do you care?
> 
> Are you  American?
> 
> https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/19/fact-sheet-biden-harris-administration-announces-new-actions-to-cut-electric-vehicle-costs-for-americans-and-continue-building-out-a-convenient-reliable-made-in-america-ev-charging-network/
> 
> "The Administration’s historic investments in EV technologies are also 
> spurring private companies to invest alongside the federal government in 
> EV charging. More than $25 billion of investment in the U.S. EV charging 
> network has been announced to date, including more than $10 billion from 
> the private sector."
> 
> (note how they refuse to break the private and public spending out for us?)
> 
> "And under President Biden’s leadership, the U.S. EV charging 
> manufacturing footprint has grown from almost nothing to a robust and 
> thriving sector."
> 
> Of 8 charging stations, lol!

That's a lot of verbiage to avoid showing how much has been spent so far.

> 
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a June study, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory projected 
>>>>> the U.S. will need 1.2 million public chargers by 2030 to meet 
>>>>> charging demand, including 182,000 fast chargers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Administration officials insist the pace at which they are rolling 
>>>>> out the infrastructure law’s charging funds is to be expected, 
>>>>> given the difficulty of creating a brand-new program in every state 
>>>>> and marshaling the private sector to meet complex reliability and 
>>>>> performance requirements for each federally-funded station.
>>>>>
>>>>> “You have to go slow to go fast,” Klein said in an interview.
>>>>
>>>> Speaking as a racing driver and race driving instructor, I can 
>>>> absolutely confirm the truth of that statement.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Paul Tracy you ain't.
>>
>> Never claimed I was.
>>
>>>
>>> Thankfully you can only do any real damage to your home venue.
>>
>> For the record, one of our club members who races in my class won the 
>> 2015 SCCA National Runoffs in that class...
> 
> That's nice.
> 
> I'm certain Tanner Foust would fillet him up the same as he did with 
> Paul Tracy back in the day.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!

> 
> 
>> ...and I'm faster than he is around our home venue.
>>
>> :-)
> 
> Zamboni races are passe.

Formula F, loser-2.