From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Trump Derangement Syndrome On Display - Ski Bunny Thinks That Everything That's Not 100% Correct Is a Lie - I Bet Ski Bunny Can't Explain WHY Trump Needed To "Lie", If He Did
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:22:10 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 09:56:31 -0700, Alan says...
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> On 2024-10-14 20:59, AlleyCat wrote:
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> > On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 10:33:33 -0700, Alan says...
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> >>> The info he had at the time he Sharpied the board... was correct.
> >>
> >> So you now admit he sharpied the board.
> >
> > NO ONE said he didn't.
> So that's a lie, Pussey.
>
> Presenting that map and purporting that that black sharpie that he had
> added is why he made is tweet...
>
> ...is lying.
No... it's following EXACTLY what The NOAA, the National Weather Service AND CNN, said.
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In fact, last week, CNN spent the entire week ridiculing President Trump for including Alabama in the list of states
that should be on the lookout for hurricane Dorian claiming that that was fake news. Only CNN had also issued the same
warning.
Literally, the entire week, the mainstream media relentlessly trashed President Trump for repeating the initial
forecast from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration which included Alabama in the possible path.
Don Lemon: "But, there are many states under threat right now, Derrick."
Derrick the WEATHERMAN: "At LEAST six. From the Carolinas, right through Georgia coastline, into Florida, certainly.
And then, also, even into the Gulf of Mexico... Louisiana, ALABAMA, Mississippi... YOU need to be on the lookout."
https://i.imgur.com/RUkcTFH.mp4
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NOAA Contradicts Weather Service, Backs Trump On Hurricane Dorian Threat In Alabama
Date: 10/12/24 09:02 PM
NOAA Contradicts Weather Service, Backs Trump On Hurricane Dorian Threat In Alabama - NPR
The parent agency of the National Weather Service said late Friday that President Trump was correct when he claimed
earlier this week that Hurricane Dorian had threatened the state of Alabama.
The surprise announcement in a statement by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration essentially endorsed
Trump's Sunday tweet saying that Alabama will "most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated."
The NOAA statement takes the National Weather Service to task, declaring, "The Birmingham National Weather Service's
Sunday morning tweet SPOKE IN ABSOLUTE TERMS THAT WERE INCONSISTENT WITH PROBABILITIES from the best forecast products
available at the time."
Because the gaslighting is getting real strong now, and it's all too easy to start questioning reality, here is every
forecast cone ever drawn by the NHC for #Hurricane #Dorian.
Plus an arbitrarily-chosen state labeled.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ED0aMhsWsAAYB1f?format=jpg&name=large
"Some administrator, or someone at the top of NOAA, threw the National Weather Service under the bus," Brian McNoldy, a
hurricane researcher at the University of Miami, told NPR.
"The part that really smells fishy is that this is five days after that tweet by Trump," he added. "If the National
Weather Service did issue a misleading or incorrect tweet, that would need to be amended or fixed in an hour or two."
"I am very disappointed to see this statement come out from NOAA," University of Oklahoma assistant meteorology
professor Jason Furtado told The Associated Press. He said the controversy over the president's tweets and the NOAA
statement undermines public confidence in meteorologists.
Since his original tweet, Trump has revisited the issue almost every day this week, including displaying an altered
version of a map showing Hurricane Dorian's projected path to include Alabama.
"From Wednesday, August 28, through Monday, September 2, the information provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane
Center to President Trump and the wider public DEMONSTRATED THAT TROPICAL-STORM-FORCE WINDS FROM HURRICANE DORIAN COULD
IMPACT ALABAMA. The Birmingham National Weather Service's Sunday morning tweet spoke in absolute terms THAT WERE
INCONSISTENT WITH PROBABILITIES from the best forecast products available at the time." - NOAA
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President Trump Was Right On Hurricane Dorian Alabama Path
Sean Hannity defended President Donald Trump tonight on Fox News, claiming that weather maps prove he was correct that
Hurricane Dorian could have hit Alabama.
"Pretty much every newsroom in America screwed this up and lied to you by accusing the president of lying. Now the
president issued this Tweet - oh look at that, that's from, I think, August 29th and 30th, proving the president, what
he said about the earlier MODELS about Hurricane Dorian, that it might hit Alabama is true. But if you watch the media
mob, you would think the president was lying, as they always do. Just another absurd example of Trump derangement
syndrome. Take a look.
Hannity added, "A lot of psychotic jackasses in the media mob. I'm sure we'll get their apology, that will be
forthcoming. Wish I had time to name every name."
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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition
All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.
"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to
their dislike of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."
Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS
down into three distinct phases or stages:
"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a
firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."
"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language
consisting solely of hyperbole."
"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality."
The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and
everything Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he
was up to something nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do
or say that would be received positively by TDSers.
The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as
president was a punch line for late-night comics and nothing more.
Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first coined by the late conservative columnist
Charles Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in
otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."
Added Krauthammer:
"Some clinicians consider this delusion - that Americans can only get their news from one part of the political
spectrum - the gravest of all. They report that no matter how many times sufferers in padded cells are presented with
flash cards with the symbols ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, Time, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, L.A.
Times - they remain unresponsive, some in a terrifying near-catatonic torpor."
(If you don't realize the idea of TDS or BDS is - in no small part - meant in a tongue-in-cheek manner then, well, you
may well have it.)
Trump allies believe that TDS is worse than ODS or BDS - by a lot. Wrote conservative pundit Bernie Goldberg on Real
Clear Politics in early 2017:
"Before the election, the victims of TDS routinely compared Donald Trump to Hitler. Guess what. They're still doing it.
Articles in respectable publications written by professors at elite universities are warning us to be on guard, that a
Trump presidency could imperil democracy-as-we-know-it and may very well spell doom for American civilization.
"On election night, as it became obvious that their worst nightmare was about to come true, some libs fainted. Some
vomited. Many more threatened to leave the country, but I'm pretty sure none actually did. As Donald Trump might say in
a tweet: so sad!"
The truth is that TDS is just the preferred nomenclature of Trump defenders who view those who oppose him and his
policies as nothing more than the blind hatred of those who preach tolerance and free speech. Viewed more broadly, the
rise of presidential derangement syndromes is a function of increased polarization - not to mention our national self-
sorting - at work in the country today.
We no longer live around, work around or pal around with people who think any differently than us. We watch cable news
that affirms what we already think. We read ideological "news" sites that tell us how good our side is and how bad the
other one is. And on and on and on.
Is it any wonder then that we are increasingly willing to lump those who disagree with us into the "deranged" category?
To say that those who don't share our views are mentally deficient in some way?
What does it say about a President - and about a country - when the standard response to those with whom you disagree
is that they must be crazy? Nothing good, for sure.
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Many clinicians, political commentators, and members of the public have speculated upon the mental health of President
Donald Trump. Indeed, over 70,000 people self-identifying as "mental health professionals" have signed a petition
declaring that "Trump is mentally ill and must be removed." In sociological terms, the "medical gaze" has been hitherto
focused on President Trump, and to a lesser extent his ardent supporters.
However, in recent months, many have been questioning the direction of this "medical gaze." In fact, more and more
people are suggesting that this "medical gaze" should be reversed and refocused on President Trump's most embittered
and partisan opponents. Some have even suggested that these opponents are experiencing a specific mental condition-a
condition which has been labelled "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (TDS).
What does DSM-5 say about "Trump Derangement Syndrome"?
Mental illnesses are officially classified in a dense and dry book published by the American Psychiatric Association
(APA) known as the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5). This book contains 947
pages and lists hundreds of mental disorders; TDS is nowhere to be seen. Similarly, a review of scholarly databases
such as MEDLINE and Google Scholar reveal no academic papers on this alleged syndrome. Officially at least, TDS is not
a real, diagnosable, or treatable mental disorder.
That said, medical anthropologists and critical sociologists have convincingly argued that DSM-5 is a flawed document.
Indeed, social scientists have long recognized that there are numerous "folk categories" of mental disorders that are
considered real conditions by the general public, even though they are not recognized as such in the DSM. These include
categories such as "burnout" or "nervous breakdown."
As such, lack of official recognition does not mean that TDS is not a real mental condition.
Lay Understandings of "Trump Derangement Syndrome"
There is no shared lay understanding of TDS, mainly because it is a folk category rather than a professional category.
As such, there is currently much armchair speculation about the nature and existence of TDS, without consensus.
The name itself explicitly suggests a "syndrome," which the Oxford English Dictionary defines as "a characteristic
combination of opinions, emotions, or behavior." Several commentators have run with this, putting forth suggestions
about opinions, emotions and behaviors characterizing TDS.
Shared amongst these is a notion that the everyday activities of President Trump trigger some people into distorted
opinions, extreme emotions and hysterical behaviors. Well-known writer Bernard Goldberg gives supposed behavioral
examples of TDS among Trump's political opponents, including fainting, vomiting, students retreating to "safe spaces"
and others demanding "therapy dogs." Political commentator Justin Raimondo focuses on opinions, language and cognition,
writing in the LA Times that "sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting of hyperbole [leading to] a constant
state of hysteria... the afflicted lose touch with reality."
Such forms of highly emotional reaction could be something akin to the fainting and screaming characterizing American
Beatlemania in the 1960s. Unlike the Beatles, however, the extreme emotional reaction alleged to characterize TDS is
not based on adoration and admiration, but on fear and loathing.
Contrariwise, many others ridicule the notion that TDS is anything but a malicious slur term used to discredit and
delegitimize criticism of President Trump. For example, CNN's Chris Cillizza may speak for many when he stated: "The
truth is that TDS is just the preferred nomenclature of Trump defenders who view those who oppose him and his policies
as nothing more than blind hatred." Likewise, Adam Gopnik writes that "our problem is not TDS; our problem is Deranged
Trump Self-Delusion."
In other words, there are polarized opinions about the nature, reality and existence of TDS.
Conclusion
The wider public may be unaware that psychiatrists and social scientists spend considerable time and energy behind
closed doors pondering over the existence and reality of mental conditions. This has led the APA to revise the DSM five
times since 1952, considerably expanding the list of official mental disorders with each revision. As far as I am
aware, few psychiatrists are currently arguing that DSM-6 should contain TDS as a mental disorder.
That said, in its official definition of mental disorder, the DSM-5 states that "a mental disorder is a syndrome
characterized by clinically significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotion regulation, or behavior...
mental disorders are usually associated with significant distress in social, occupational, or other important
activities."
Many have argued that some people have been seriously disturbed and distressed by the policies, speech, behavior, and
tweets of President Trump, so much so that it has affected their cognitive, affective, and behavioral functioning. Such
people may need mental health support. As such, further research is necessary to investigate the extreme reactions
toward President Trump, in the same way that researchers investigate other extreme social phenomena, such as
Beatlemania or the like. This will shed light on the reality of this emerging folk category that has been labelled by
many as "Trump Derangement Syndrome."